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FailMore 15 hours ago [-]
I enjoyed this article... random cat pictures (esp. thumbs up cat picture) kept me going.
I do think on device AI will be a BIG thing... and basically change how we interact with our computers entirely - you will just ask to get things done. Low latency, free to use as much as you want. I think this future is hard to avoid/this will be a chunk of the future.
MisterTea 14 hours ago [-]
Like Star Trek -- "tea. earl grey. hot.". Though there will still be tasks where you'd have to likely want or need to pick up a keyboard and mouse. But of course there will be plenty of casual users who dont want or need to do anything interesting and use it for simple tasks like ask for the weather, turn on lights, and brew their earl grey.
vkaku 14 hours ago [-]
I don't think personal computers will be a BIG thing ....
- IDK, some random mainframe company exec in the 60s ;)
alansaber 14 hours ago [-]
For sure, there is a big subset of tasks where ultra low latency >>> other concerns
RetroTechie 11 hours ago [-]
Anyone know how this company expects to make money from AI model(s) running locally on consumer-grade hardware?
Download a closed-source binary for <platform>, payment via appstore? Ads inserted in output? Freemium vs. pro tier offerings? Some other way?
This seems like boxed software of old, right? Cracked and distributed on warez sites in no-time.
cdud3 11 hours ago [-]
With specialized agents it could be as simple as "Upgrade your current used generic model to the better one specialized better on your tasks for only $10" rather then today's "we ship everything in one model no matter what you really need so you need our cloud subscription" approach.
Karuma 17 hours ago [-]
It's just another Qwen 3.6 27B finetune (not even 3.8...), claiming to beat TB-sized models. This is probably the 57th model like that, just this week, claiming the same thing... And they never deliver, to say the least.
dgellow 15 hours ago [-]
Didn’t they deliver something here? Why does it matter what base model they used?
eightysixfour 14 hours ago [-]
What they all deliver is benchmaxxed models that are awful in actual use.
xena 14 hours ago [-]
But it gives the lab good publicity, as seen in the article.
dgellow 14 hours ago [-]
Qwen is a really awesome model to use!
vkaku 14 hours ago [-]
I'm giving out more unpopular opinions today for entertainment and thought :)
Every model is benchmaxxing today. Many of them are awful until tuned for any particular task.
BoredomIsFun 12 hours ago [-]
> (not even 3.8...)
3.6 is better for non-coding tasks, noticeably so.
alansaber 14 hours ago [-]
The finetunes will continue until morale increases.
ngl999 14 hours ago [-]
Still censored, no thanks.
zabana 13 hours ago [-]
arent western models censored too ?
mmooss 13 hours ago [-]
> At the 18th anniversary reunion of Shanda Innovation Institute, he publicly declared "eight non-consensus views for the AI era," ...
The "eight non-consensus views" matches a pattern in public communication in China, and I wonder if it is a technique that's taught, a style, or something with a history? Is there a word for it? I'm hoping someone here might know.
For example, Xi Jinping's English Wikipedia page includes:
* Four Comprehensives, Four Confidences, Four Consciousnesses, Three red lines, Three Stricts and Three Honests, Two Centenaries, Two Establishments, Two Upholds, Eight Musts, Eight-point Regulation
Deng Xiaopeng:
* Four Modernizations, Six Conceptions, Four Cardinal Principles, Four Modernizations
Mao and the Cultural Revolution:
* Three-anti and Five-anti Campaigns, Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, Four Olds, Five Black Categories, Five Red Categories, Four Greats, Three Loyalties and Four Limitlessnesses
debo_ 14 hours ago [-]
A dark horse named Lux.
petcat 16 hours ago [-]
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BigTTYGothGF 15 hours ago [-]
It's a big world, and I personally don't know anything about the history of software in places other than the west. Could you expand on the particulars of software in China and why those claims are wrong?
petcat 15 hours ago [-]
> Known as the "godfather" of programmers in the internet era
BigTTYGothGF 13 hours ago [-]
Well, was he? I mean, I never heard of him, but all I know about the Chinese internet from those years I got from reading China Smack.
aaron695 14 hours ago [-]
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Nzen 14 hours ago [-]
I can't speak to computing history in China, but Read Only Memory has books about the Japanese [0] and British [1] video game companies. MIT has published books about computing in Taiwan, Bulgaria, and China [2]. The former two are even open access, so you can download them for free.
What does any of this have to do with Chen Danyan?
try-working 16 hours ago [-]
It's a genuine Chinese news article written by a real person. I don't know why they choose to use these types of images, it truly makes it look like slop. I think it's because it's originally a WeChat article posted on their website.
The article linked here seems to be a (bad) auto-translated version.
It's not uncommon for images to be incorporated in an article like this, as they typically get shared around WeChat and correspond better with the 'culture'.
petcat 16 hours ago [-]
How do we explain this little blob of sloptext right in the middle:
> The second task was more straightforward: both models were asked to search for flight tickets in a browser at the same time.
> I'm unable to open a browser or interact with live websites like Google Flights. I can only process text and don't have real-time browsing capabilities. To find this flight yourself, here's what you'd do: 1. Go to google.com/flights 2. Enter Singapore (SIN) → Beijing 3. Select one-way, set departure date to 5 days from today 4. Filter by "Nonstop" and "Economy" 5. Check the results — note that flights to Beijing may land at either Capital (PEK) or Daxing (PKX). Exclude any Daxing arrivals. 6. Compare prices and pick the cheapest nonstop option landing at PEK. If you'd like, I can help you think through typical price ranges, airline options on this route, or general tips for finding cheap flights.
> Among them, StartLux-V1.0-27B-Preview completed the search in about 95 seconds, finding an Air China ticket priced at $299.
try-working 15 hours ago [-]
they're quoting the models chain of thought.
satvikpendem 15 hours ago [-]
Did you even read what it just said above? They're testing the model's capabilities so of course they'd have whatever text the model outputted in the article, that's the entire point.
I do think on device AI will be a BIG thing... and basically change how we interact with our computers entirely - you will just ask to get things done. Low latency, free to use as much as you want. I think this future is hard to avoid/this will be a chunk of the future.
- IDK, some random mainframe company exec in the 60s ;)
Download a closed-source binary for <platform>, payment via appstore? Ads inserted in output? Freemium vs. pro tier offerings? Some other way?
This seems like boxed software of old, right? Cracked and distributed on warez sites in no-time.
Every model is benchmaxxing today. Many of them are awful until tuned for any particular task.
3.6 is better for non-coding tasks, noticeably so.
The "eight non-consensus views" matches a pattern in public communication in China, and I wonder if it is a technique that's taught, a style, or something with a history? Is there a word for it? I'm hoping someone here might know.
For example, Xi Jinping's English Wikipedia page includes:
* Four Comprehensives, Four Confidences, Four Consciousnesses, Three red lines, Three Stricts and Three Honests, Two Centenaries, Two Establishments, Two Upholds, Eight Musts, Eight-point Regulation
Deng Xiaopeng:
* Four Modernizations, Six Conceptions, Four Cardinal Principles, Four Modernizations
Mao and the Cultural Revolution:
* Three-anti and Five-anti Campaigns, Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, Four Olds, Five Black Categories, Five Red Categories, Four Greats, Three Loyalties and Four Limitlessnesses
[0] https://readonlymemory.com/products/japansoft-an-oral-histor...
[1] https://readonlymemory.com/products/britsoft-an-oral-history
[2] https://direct.mit.edu/books/search-results?f_ContentType=Bo...
The article linked here seems to be a (bad) auto-translated version.
It's not uncommon for images to be incorporated in an article like this, as they typically get shared around WeChat and correspond better with the 'culture'.
> The second task was more straightforward: both models were asked to search for flight tickets in a browser at the same time.
> I'm unable to open a browser or interact with live websites like Google Flights. I can only process text and don't have real-time browsing capabilities. To find this flight yourself, here's what you'd do: 1. Go to google.com/flights 2. Enter Singapore (SIN) → Beijing 3. Select one-way, set departure date to 5 days from today 4. Filter by "Nonstop" and "Economy" 5. Check the results — note that flights to Beijing may land at either Capital (PEK) or Daxing (PKX). Exclude any Daxing arrivals. 6. Compare prices and pick the cheapest nonstop option landing at PEK. If you'd like, I can help you think through typical price ranges, airline options on this route, or general tips for finding cheap flights.
> Among them, StartLux-V1.0-27B-Preview completed the search in about 95 seconds, finding an Air China ticket priced at $299.